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(Good attempt, Qwentyth! Just one minor clarification...)
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Ahh, we are both right, and wrong.  My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1.  My math works as it should).  Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier.  ;-)  Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from.  We are, of course, currently in Ablinth.  I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page.  Taking that into account, our dates match up.  The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper.  Neato! Thanks for the catch. --[[User:Qwentyth Pyre|Qwentyth Pyre]] 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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Out-Of-Game Discussion

So, somebody please check my math here, but I believe that makes the first edition of the folktown records published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13. If the Encyclopedants would please check my math, we can confirm that the weekly paper (if it comes out on the same day every week) comes out every Varhookan.

For reference, my calculations were as follows. 0/1/1 (the start of the encyclopedia) was Ulfsday in Ikk. The first paper was -13/3/22. So, we need to go back 13 full years, then forward 2 months and 21 days. (Note, that's 2 and 21, *not* 3 and 22. Have to be careful with negative date years and off by one counting errors) So, 13 years x 336 days/year = 4374 days backwards. 2 months x 28 days per month = 56 days forward, plus an extra 21 days = 77 days forward. 77 is an obvious multiple of 7 ( a full week ) so can be ignored. We want a partial week offset to determine day of the week relative to Ulfsday. 7 divided into 4374 yields 624 with a remainder of 6. This is actually -6 since we were dividing into negative days, and 6 days before Ulfsday is the same as one day after, which yields Varhookan.

The month is much easier. Complete years can be ignored so -13/3/22 is 2 month-names ahead of 0/1/1. If we are currently in Ikk, that makes the first paper published on Varhookan the 22nd of Kendrit, -13.

--Qwentyth Pyre

Excellent work, and I'm very impressed, but in fact -13/3/22 EC is Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti. I think the problem is that you're taking the day before 0/1/1 to be -1/1/1, when actually it's -1/12/28 which makes the calculation a lot simpler.

The first edition of Folktown Records to be mentioned is 578 in Quezlarian Numerals, and since that was our initial test entry written roughly nine months ago (which we jokingly refer to as Ghyll period of gestation), I decided that the FR edition released on 0/1/1 EC should be the one released nine Ghyll months after 578, i.e. FR 614 (36 weeks, and hence editions, later). As we know that 0/1/1 is an Ulfsday, that means that all FR editions must be released on an Ulfsday, so no maths need be involved. Sorry! Again, though, excellent effort.

--Sean B. Palmer 22:39, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)


Ahh, we are both right, and wrong. My math is correct (you are incorrect in assuming I thought the day before 0/1/1 was -1/1/1. My math works as it should). Your Ulfsday to Ulfsday logic confirms I did the day to day conversion math right, but your way is much easier.  ;-) Where I am incorrect is in declaring that we are currently in Ikk, and using that as my base to calculate from. We are, of course, currently in Ablinth. I will make that correction in the main Bursine Calendar page. Taking that into account, our dates match up. The first FR was published on Ulfsday the 22nd of Conti, and is therefore an Ulfsday weekly paper. Neato! Thanks for the catch. --Qwentyth Pyre 21:51, 14 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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